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Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 04:46:00 - [1] There are zero game mechanics to support the notion of crews on ships. There is a dev quote they like to post the answer to the question is "Yes" "because a dev said so". I didnt read every post like I did last time to see if they brought it up. So if crews exist on your ship its in your mind in roleplay, or in one of the fictional pieces written about eve. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 05:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 16/07/2010 05:18:53 Yes. They have crews. Lots of them. Lets see 'em then. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 06:45:00 - [3] Quote: All you do is think "FIRE ZEE MISSILES!!!11" and the order instantly goes out to your gunnery teams who make it happen. Imagine the micro management if you had to do that for 8 missile launchers. You are stupid beyond stupid, I don't have to imagine it, its how the ****ing in game mechanic works. I press f1 and it fires a missile. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 08:41:00 - [4] Quote: um actually now you look stupid, Yes, but it's because I replied to a troll. Again the answer is simple, RP it however you want, its a free world. "It" being the lack of any in game mechanic relating to ships crews, specifically capsulers. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 20:15:00 - [5] Quote: The human crew is there because many minds/hands can do many things in parallel. Thats what I am trying to tell you, this "human crew" you speak of is present in eve fiction but not present in game. Show me them in game. RP it however you want. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.16 21:29:00 - [6] Quote: That's irrelevant. According to the lore, these tanks contain a full crew. And yet, because of what the person that I am is doing (remember, this is a FIRST PERSON shooter, where I play as a person/character), the tank is able to move and shoot simultaneously without me ever seeing these supposed 'crewmembers' slamming a round into the chamber, or giving me navigation details. looks like you play at least 1 game with faildevs. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.17 04:50:00 - [7] Quote: blah blah blah tons of theorycraft as to why there is no evidence of crews in game... Leads us to the inevitable conclusion that there is no evidence of crews in game. If I am incorrect, correct me with the evidence now or forever hold your piece. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.17 05:33:00 - [8] Originally by: SammyullJackson Edited by: SammyullJackson on 17/07/2010 05:10:15 Originally by: Cipher Jones Quote: blah blah blah tons of theorycraft as to why there is no evidence of crews in game... Leads us to the inevitable conclusion that there is no evidence of crews in game. If I am incorrect, correct me with the evidence now or forever hold your piece. Okay. You want to pretend the facts don't exist, well, denial is a river in Egypt as well as a mental state. See Culture Alien EDIT: Someone beat me to it, here. Astounded to see you struggle onwards with this farcical view. Ah, well, then disregard this post as you have every other. EDITED AGAIN: Okay, it was aimed at someone else, so I guess I need to repeat for you. But yeah, TVTropes, great **. Repeating the wrong ** over and over does not make you right by a longshot. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.17 05:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Father Grigori I read this whole thread. CCP has stated MULTIPLE times that all their ships, capsuleer controlled or otherwise (excluding frigates), have crews. Your only defense is: "i dont agree with their lore lol" You have been linked multiple times sources backing this up. You brushed them off. Don't make me go get my copy of empyrean age and start quoting from that. Lore without evidence is called mythology. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.17 06:05:00 - [10] Quote: Hmm, wrong huh 100%. I asked for in game evidence and was given out of game lore. This is clearly a signature.

Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.17 09:17:00 - [11] Quote: Seriously, you are the kind of person who would walk up to an author and say everything about their book is wrong. For example they changed much of the lore in the Star Wars Saga. To walk up to the author of the script to the movie Phantom Menace and say "you got it all wrong" would be spot on. In EvE, one or more devs meant to put ships crews in the game. It was in the "lore" from beta, someone posted links to "blueprints" in the last thread about this. Then the game got released, and there were no mechanics included in the game to cover it, or any other mention. On the 10th or 11th expansion they added the one paragraph of text that references your crew but failed to include anything else about it. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.23 17:10:00 - [12] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 23/07/2010 17:11:00 Originally by: Xtover Edited by: Xtover on 23/07/2010 14:32:09 Originally by: Cipher Jones Quote: The human crew is there because many minds/hands can do many things in parallel. Thats what I am trying to tell you, this "human crew" you speak of is present in eve fiction but not present in game. Show me them in game. RP it however you want. here you go. (edit the apostrophe messes up the link. just "search for page title" and there's a link to the article. Quote: Ship's Crew A non-capsuleer member of a shipÆs crew relegated to manual tasks essential for maintaining the operational status of the ship. OMG THANK YOU!!! you have done it! You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that my ship does not have a crew! Quote: Eve ships have crew. It's in the canon. Ship crews are not represented in-game. Actually they are represented in game if you check the link above. My ship does not have any, yours may [sic]. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.23 19:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Zeredek Originally by: Cipher Jones You should be silent as well. And you should kiss my shiny Minmatar buttox. I always said my ships did not have crew and now it is 100% verified in game with mechanic and pics. The mystery is solved shaggy. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.24 02:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Lumy Originally by: Cipher Jones Edited by: Cipher Jones on 23/07/2010 17:11:00 Originally by: Xtover here you go. (edit the apostrophe messes up the link. just "search for page title" and there's a link to the article. Quote: Ship's Crew A non-capsuleer member of a shipÆs crew relegated to manual tasks essential for maintaining the operational status of the ship. OMG THANK YOU!!! you have done it! You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that my ship does not have a crew! Quote: Eve ships have crew. It's in the canon. Ship crews are not represented in-game. Actually they are represented in game if you check the link above. My ship does not have any, yours may [sic]. He has also proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you don't understand written English, or fail at logic miserably. You are clearly just upset that your ship does not have a crew. This is clearly a signature.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.24 03:19:00 - [15] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 24/07/2010 03:23:45 Edited by: Cipher Jones on 24/07/2010 03:21:34 Originally by: Arkios Odymei Edited by: Arkios Odymei on 24/07/2010 03:09:19 Originally by: Cipher Jones OMG THANK YOU!!! you have done it! You have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that my ship does not have a crew! He has also proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you like to cherry pick what you like and don like about Eve lore. Also, as he stated, the apostrophe breaks the link. Here is a working version so you can weep and finaly shut up about there not being any crew in game. And FYI, they are the surviving crew of another's ship that you are sent to rescue in a mission. They are something (someone? lol) that you can only carry around in your cargo bay because they are not YOUR ship's crew, but the crew of another. whoa whoa whoa B, dont forget; everyone who said their ship had a crew but did not purchase them and put them in the ship was wrong. If you have been following along I did not believe there was a mechanic in the game. I was wrong about that. However, this is one out of many threads from the past few months and my main beef was there was no crew on MY ship. There is not. There never was. And people fought with me tooth and nail about it. It is settled now once and for all that your ship can contain a crew, but it is not required. Everyone who wants a crew can have one now. I was not being sarcastic when I exclaimed that for the record, I was being totally sincere. Yes, I admit that I was wrong, there IS a game mechanic that supports the notion of crews. IF you want one and put one in your ship. Ahh now that I re-read, you obviously did not follow up and did think I was being sarcastic. I was not. Ship's crew is a legit item on the market. If you dont put Ship's crew in your ship, it does not have them. This is clearly a signature.

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